Was Yogi Bhajan the "Siri Singh Sahib" and leader of the Sikh religion in the Western Hemisphere? What is the Truth? Why does it matter?

by Gursant Singh ⌂ @, Yuba City California USA, Thursday, January 05, 2012, 14:31 (4466 days ago)
edited by Gursant Singh, Tuesday, October 16, 2012, 00:25

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The Yogi Bhajan portrait in the Sikh Museum at the Darbar Sahib (Golden Temple)proves, Yogi Bhajan was never given any such title as "Siri Singh Sahib" by Shri Akaal Takhat Sahib.

One can clearly see the text for Yogi Bhajan's name as "Bhai Harbhajan Singh Ji Yogi"
There is no mention of the title "Siri Singh Sahib" when in other Sikh's portraits the museum shows the title given by the Khalsa panth or Shri Akaal Takhat Sahib under their name. I am appalled when I see a fraud like Yogi Bhajan displayed with all his tantric stones & yogic jewellry alongside the likes of Sant Singh Maskeen jee or Bhai Jasbir Singh Khalsa aka Veer jee. These Singhs were the true Panth Rattans, not Yogi Puri a cult leader!!

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Jeweled adorned emblem depicting Yogi Bhajan's grandiose self-appointment as "Siri Singh Sahib, leader of the Sikhs in the Western hemisphere". Yogi Bhajan used lavish jewelry to try and impress people that he was a king and his false titles carried the royal credibility of lavish gemstones. Official Seal used by Yogi Bhajan which shows the false title of "Siri Singh Sahib"

Why does SikhNet call Yogi Bhajan the "Siri Singh Sahib " & leader of the Sikhs in the west when Bhajan's false title has been shown to be a lie?

This discussion is taken from a forum with former and current Yogi Bhajan followers. I encourage everyone who considers themselves a Sikh or kundalini yoga student to join in this important discussion:

On December 27th sharpsight wrote: “In all the years that I've been reading these posts, I've never seen it laid out so succinctly that there is no such thing as the title SSS”.
This got me to thinking; I decided to lay out ALL the reasons why I believe that:
a) there never was is or will be a title of that nature (other than in the perception of YB and the Bhajanistas)
b) This whole thing was a great hoax that was perpetrated by YB.
Of course, it’s hard to prove a negative. That is why I invite MrSingh or any other Bhajanista to prove that the SSS title was awarded by either the Akaal Takhat or the SGPC. If they are able to post a proclamation or similar document here on this web site stating that the SSS title was awarded to YB I will be the first to admit I am mistaken. Letters addressed to YB do not count; I am well aware that even Gurcharan Singh Tohra - in spite of his denial that the title was ever given – took to addressing YB as SSS in the last years of his life.
These are my reasons why I think this was a contrived title:
1: YB was a pathological liar.
It has been shown here on the Wacko World, time and time again, that YB told many, many lies. He was especially prone to lie about his achievements and qualifications. Let us look at some of the more egregious examples:
a) He led his village out of Pakistan during the time of Partition.

Well, not according to YB’s own father. Upon leaving India in 1972, before he was exposed to YB’s revised life history, Papaji told how YB was actually at the rear of the village column, helping his mother who was falling further and further behind. Eventually he ran to the head of the column and pointed a gun at the man who actually was the actual leader of the group. The young YB then threatened to shoot him if something was not done about his mother’s plight. This shows his determined nature but does not match the legend as told by YB himself.

b) He was a master of Kundalini Yoga at the age of sixteen.

In the very first interview that YB gave after coming to Canada, the interviewer asked him how old he was when he started practicing yoga. YB said that he was eighteen. So, either he was lying then or he has been lying for all these years about being a sixteen year old master of KY. I know which one I think is more likely.

c) He was Yogi Bhajan Ph.D.

It’s true of course that YB was given a Ph.D. by some diploma mill in Northern Cal. It’s also common knowledge that his thesis was written by MSS Gurcharan Singh. This was perhaps not a direct lie but certainly dishonest and probably illegal.
We could go on about the Mahan Tantric, Lama Lilian Po (sp?) and the lies about YB’s form of KY being an ancient science. The point is that we are looking at someone who seemed to have no hesitation in falsifying qualifications in order to make him appear grander to the world.

2: There is no historical precedent in Sikhi for the SSS title.
It is well known that there is no clergy in Sikhi. There are granthi(an) but these are not ministers. YB always said that he wanted to create ministers to give legal standing to his non-profit corporations and so that marriages performed by SD ministers would be legal. This is fair enough but is does not alter the fact that all titles that he gave are without precedent in Sikh history and SRM; and therefore not representative of Sikhi.
It is true that the Jathedars of the five takhats are given the title “Singh Sahib” and, as I will show later, I believe that YB was also given the title. But the idea of one person – male or female – having absolute authority over any group of Sikhs is unprecedented in Sikhi since the demise of Guru Gobind Singh ji. That is why I believe, had there ever been any discussion amongst the SGPC over the SSS title, it would have been soundly rejected.
Of course in various dere, the Sant or Baba holds supreme authority. And that is what 3HO/SD was during YB’s lifetime: a dera. Whether it still is now is debatable and not really germane to this discussion.
I will add some material from Dr. Trilochan Singh’s book Sikhism and Tantric Yoga to add clarity to this isuue:
There is no such Ecclesiastical title as Siri Singh Sahib, and others ridiculously created by Yogi Bhajan, such as Mukhia Singh Sahib, and Khalsa. The Head Priest of Golden Temple and the Jathedars of the Four Takhats are called Singh Sahib (without the prefix Siri) only as long as they are serving these institutions. Giani Bhupinder Singh was called Singh Sahib as long as he was Head Granthi of Golden Temple (about 12 years) and when he entered politics he is simply called Giani Bhupinder Singh and never Singh Sahib. When any person is installed as Head Priest or Jathedar of Takhat there is a special ceremony performed for it. No such ceremony was performed for Yogi Bhajan. No Singh Sahib can be called a Yogi or by half name as Bhajan signs himself, nor can he ever put any other surname except Singh. There cannot be a Singh Sahib without the suffix Singh as the final surname.

Only such a theologian or a learned man can be installed as Singh Sahib who can interpret Adi Guru Granth, Bhai Gurdas, Suraj Prakash; and they have to deliver sermons on the basis of the interpretations of these works every day. Yogi Bhajan cannot read correctly or interpret any thirty pages of these voluminous works. Nor does he keep Rehat (the Essential Sikh Code of Conduct as the Khalsa should do). On the other hand he has installed more Singh Sahibs among his followers than have been created in 200 years of the history of Amritsar. Everyone who becomes his follower is given the certificate and title of Khalsa. Khalsa is not a title that can be doled out as Yogi Bhajan is doing to his Tantric disciples.

3: The denials that the title was ever given, first by an SGPC member and then its president.
From Dr Trilochan Singh’s book Sikhism and Tantric Yoga:
I met a very prominent sitting member of S.G.P.C. who is touring the U.S.A. and Canada for an undeclared mission. I showed him all the documents quoted in this chapter and asked him how on earth could the S.G.P.C. do such an absurd thing. He admitted that the S.G.P.C, being composed of more politicians than religious men, has in the past committed some serious errors which when pointed out by theologians and scholars have been corrected, but as he had attended all the meetings in 1970-1974 no such title was ever sanctioned by S.G.P.C. Executive. (my emphasis added)
All S.G.P.C. resolutions are published in Gurdwara Gazette. A Robe of honor was given to Yogi Bhajan in 1974 on the recommendation of President Taura, but a Robe of honor does not carry any title with it, nor does it give authority of any kind. If Yogi Bhajan had been made any such Chief of the Western Sikhs in 1971 then a Robe of honor in 1974 was meaningless.

As I have recently posted, in a 1977 Time Magazine article it is stated: High Priest Gurucharan Singh Tohra, president of the management committee for northern India's Sikh temples, confirms that his council has given "full approval" to 3HO and recognizes the yogi as a preacher. Tohra, however, says that this does not mean that Bhajan is the Sikh leader of the Western Hemisphere, as he claims. The Sikhs do not create such offices. Nor, Tohra adds, has the committee given Bhajan the rarely bestowed title, Siri Singh Sahib, which he uses.

4: What really happened in 1971?
That he was honoured at the Akal Takhat is beyond doubt; thanks to MrSingh we have the pictures to prove it. But what honor was given? He was similarly honored in 1974. Everyone seems to agree that, upon that second occasion, he was given the title of Bhai Sahib.
In 1971 there was no one on that trip who could speak Punjabi other than YB himself. Since I can assume with close to absolute certainty that the ceremony was conducted in Punjabi, the only source who told the group – if indeed they were even told – that the SSS title was given would have been YB himself.
I was around when the jatha left for India in December of 1970 and I was around when they returned. No one spoke about any title given to YB, not even YB himself.
I never heard YB mention the SSS title until perhaps 1973, certainly never in 1972. If he had been given this illustrious title, why not use it immediately? Not conclusive proof, I agree, but again it points to YB as the only source of the information that he had supposedly received this great honor.

5: The April 1971 Gurdwara Gazette
The Gurdwara Gazette is the official organ of the SGPC. All of its actions are recorded therein.
The April 1971 edition has the report on the visit by the Americans to Amritsar. The words “Siri Singh Sahib” are nowhere to be found in this issue. Had there been an official award of the SSS title to Yogi Bhajan, it would certainly have been reported in this magazine. The fact that it was not shows that it is almost certain that no such title was given.

6: The SGPC proclamation that was missing a word.
Former MSS Vikram Singh happened to be at the GRD Estate in the late 1970s. By chance he observed a document that had been left lying on the dining room table. This was a proclamation from the SGPC giving YB the title of Singh Sahib. You will notice that there is a significant word missing.
I have discussed this at length with Vikram and he is adamant that was what he saw. He was quite surprised and looked gain and again to make sure that there was no “Siri” on the page. Vikram says that he had the idea previously that YB was making the whole thing up but he didn’t say anything as he didn’t want to have his face ripped off and, as so many of us did, continued to go along with the charade.
Now does it make sense that, if the SGPC had clearly given him the SSS title previously, they would issue a proclamation that did not use it?

7: The YB portrait in the Sikh Museum.
Gursant Singh recently gave us some information about the YB portrait in Amritsar’s Sikh Museum.
“I heard back from my source in Amritsar and it appears the Yogi Bhajan portrait in the Sikh museum at the Darbar Sahib contains the text for his name "Bhai Sahib Bhai Harbajan Singh Yogi" You'd think that if the SGPC gave him a title like Siri Singh Sahib, they'd proudly display it under YB's portrait for the world to see in the main Sikh museum”.
We will apparently soon have a picture to prove this.
So there we have it. The mystery of an unprecedented title – Siri Singh Sahib - which was eagerly embraced by the Bhajanists yet almost never used by the Punjabis, in particular the SGPC. I believe it was self-bestowed and I will continue to do so until I am shown otherwise.
Someone recently posted that they thought YB was brave. I think that a better word would be chutzpah.
From Wikipedia: Chutzpah ( /ˈhʊtspə/) is the quality of audacity, for good or for bad, but it is generally used positively. The Yiddish word derives from the Hebrew word ḥuṣpâ (חֻצְפָּה), meaning "insolence", "audacity". The modern English usage of the word has taken on a broader meaning, having been popularized through vernacular use in film, literature, and television. The word has also been able to be interpreted as meaning the amount of spunk or ability that an individual has. In more traditional usage, chutzpah is invariably negative.
Do I think that YB would have had the chutzpah to shamelessly propagate this SSS myth for so long? Absolutely.

"We could go on about the Mahan Tantric, Lama Lilian Po (sp?) and the lies about YB’s form of KY being an ancient science. The point is that we are looking at someone who seemed to have no hesitation in falsifying qualifications in order to make himself appear grander to the world."

The argument I hear from YBers is that "YB's yoga "works", so what if YB lied abut a few things." Noor Singh's letter which he sent me after I tried to introduce him to Dr. Trilochan Singh's book tells clearly the general thinking of YBers:

From: khalsans@hotmail.com
To: gurusant@hotmail.com
Subject: Tantric Yoga
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 2010 10:59:11 -0700

As far as all this business about the Mahan Tantric is concerned, I've known for years that a Tibetan (with a Chinese name, no less) would not share tantric secrets with some arrogant Punjabi. Tibetans just don't do that with their closely guarded secrets. They tend to be more clannish.

None the less, I love doing tantric and receive great benefits from it.
I don't really care where a technique comes from, as long as it works. If I worried about yogic lineage, I'd be in big trouble, because we have none. We can trace 'Long Ek Ong Kar' to Baba Virsa Singh; there is little else that we know for sure. As far as being thousands of years old, perhaps there are kriyas that have their roots in the deep past, but they've been retrofitted with new mantras that come from SGGS. Well, if it works, I really don't care - that makes it all the more integrated and convenient for me.

Even if all the yogic teachings are 100% the product of SSS, then I'd have to hail him as a creative genius.
I know of no one who comes close. 'Yoga master' Gurucharan Singh? Give me a break.

And you've done tantric more than once. I guess I don't really understand why you did, if you found it a waste of time and now want to discredit it. So I'm not really sure where you are going with all of this. But I'm pretty sure that few here are going with you, at this point in time.

Does Kundalini Yoga “work” or does it cause delusions of religious grandeur?

Recently I’ve had a unique opportunity to meet with leading Psychiatry Medical Doctors over the last year or so. I have to thank my wife who being a Psychiatrist here in London has made this interaction with such experts in the field of Psychiatry possible.

Did Yogi Bhajan exhibit delusions of religious grandeur? During my 30 years with Yogi Bhajan and his Kundalini/tantric Yoga cult, Yogi Bhajan continually told us how we (White 3HO Sikhs) would lead humanity into some kind of “Blissful Aquarian Age”! We certainly had delusions that Yogi Bhajan would be remembered as the great “guru” who gave us Kundalini Yogic power to lead the world.

Find more discussion on my facebook page.

The conclusion I reached from my conversations with these mental health experts was that Kundalini Yoga practitioners develop psychotic behavior with delusions of religious grandeur which seem to get worse and worse as the length of time practicing KY becomes greater. For example, People like Guruka Singh and Hari Jiwan Singh who have practiced Kundalini Yoga for 40 years make more outrageous delusional statements than a novice KY Teacher Trainer practicing Kundalini Yoga.

If you watch the videos of Guruka Singh and Gurmukh Kaur you’ll readily see how they appear to be almost in some kind of hypnotic trance, they just don’t sound like normal well balanced people. Does Kundalini Yoga create delusions about “Magic Aquarian Age energy" beaming down from Jupiter to instill yogic superpowers solely in Yogi Bhajan devotees so they can lead humanity into some kind of “Blissful Aquarian Age”?
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Guruka Singh of SikhNet at Sikh Missionary Society in Southhall UK promoting Yogi Bhajan's Kundalini Yoga.Cult expert Rick Ross cautions: "..if you see some guru's picture on the wall, or religious statues in the entrance area or practice room, something more than yoga might be lurking within the instruction...A group with a hidden agenda can use meditation to download its program"

I submit that Kundalini Yoga is like an addictive drug which may seem to help people out of their depression and alcohol addictions but after time it acts in producing mental and physical side effects. Kundalini Yoga practitioners develop psychotic delusions about "Magic Aquarian Age energy" beaming down from the stars. These Yogi Bhajan cult followers then fantasize they’re super heroes leading and liberating all those who do Kundalini yoga into some kind of “New Age of Enlightenment”!
See this video of Gurmukh kaur Khalsa "Liberation Kriya" which shows clear delusional behavior. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L2RCNS1qvb8&feature=share

http://gurmukhyoga.com/forum/index.php?id=336
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In my experience,the Yogi Bhajan way of smashing everyone into altered states by piling on more and more exercises, meditations and perhaps a gong meditation leaves people spacey and prone to induction into his cult. That’s probably why he (Yogi Bhajan) did it and why Kundalini Yoga teachers keep on doing it. The heavy breathing (breath of fire as Yogi Bhajan called it) techniques, loud gong sounds ringing in your ears and hours of Yogi Bhajan mantra chanting, sometimes in front of his picture, put unsuspecting people into an almost trance like state, making students more susceptible to induction into the Yogi Bhajan cult. Yogi Bhajan would have us hold our arms up for hours in some “kriya” he made up. We were so exhausted after several hours that we’d believe or accept anything Yogi Bhajan said. http://gurmukhyoga.com/forum/index.php?id=317

Yesterday I was talking with a UK Medical Doctor about Kundalini Yoga and its effects on the human body. The Doctor explained how any exercise will make you feel happy with a sense of well-being because endorphins, namely adrenaline and nor-adrenaline, are released by the brain during heavy exercise. Doctors call these “Happy Hormones”. When Kundalini yoga practitioners say they experience an exalted sense of well-being they are merely feeling the effects of these “Happy Hormones” which are released by the brain after running or any other heavy exercise.

I ask SikhNet's Guruka Singh, "Why risk the many physical, mental and spiritual side effects of Kundalini Yoga when you can get the same benefits from other sports activities?"

Another serious side effect seems to show up in the large amount of criminal activity by Yogi Bhajan Kundalini Yoga devotees. See these links for details:

http://gurmukhyoga.com/forum/index.php?id=302
http://www.rickross.com/reference/3ho/3ho84.html
http://www.rickross.com/reference/3ho/3ho59.html
http://www.rickross.com/reference/3ho/3ho21.html

As a practicing Sikh, I can now clearly see why the Sikh Gurus NEVER taught Kundalini or Tantric Yoga and there was a definite reason for it!! Traditional Sikh faith offers a complete spiritual path and a complete way of living a human life through recitation of Gurbani and meditating on the name of God.
http://gurmukhyoga.com/forum/index.php?mode=page&id=1

Yogi Bhajan drastically diverted from the teachings of the Sikh Gurus with his clap trap theories of Kundalini and tantric Yoga and now he and those who practice under Yogi are suffering for it!
http://gurmukhyoga.com/forum/index.php?id=305

Dr. Trilochan Singh, an eminent Sikh scholar and historian, after spending many months with Yogi Bhajan, revealed Yogi Bhajan’s delusions of religious grandeur as early as 1977 with his book “Sikhism and Tantric Yoga”; “He (Yogi Bhajan) sincerely believes that he can fool the ignorant American Sikhs to believe that he is the Super-Messiah of the Age, and they at least must believe that he is greater than the Sikh Gurus, and he has done what the Sikh Gurus were unable to do. We will study in detail how he (Yogi Bhajan) has built himself as the Western Pope of the Sikhs, the only Mahan Tantric in the World, and perhaps the only person who could tell so many lies about himself and make every American follower of his believe it.” http://gurmukhyoga.com/forum/index.php?mode=page&id=1

Review the quotations given below from Yogi Bhajan’s lectures and read recent statements along with reviewing videos produced by Yogi Bhajan’s 3HO Kundalini Yoga disciples and decide for yourself if Kundalini Yoga produces delusions of grandeur.

Pritpal Kaur ~ "How do we use simple techniques(Kundalini Yoga)to take me quickly to my intuitive mind?" 3HOer for 40 years and lead Trainer for Yogi Bhajan's Kundalini Research Institute, Pritpal Kaur is doing yoga & katcha mantras during the whole video with her back turned to Guru Sahib! She abruptly ends" with "OK" showing no respect for Wahe Guru! If this is not bad enough, She uses sacred symbols of the Sikh religion for profit & promotion of Yogi Bhajan's Kundalini Yoga training nonsense. See 2:16 in the video. http://media.causes.com/1099087?s=c_feed

Gurmukh Kaur Khalsa ~ Yogi Bhajan "Liberation Kriya" “Let’s channel energy from Jupiter to our moon centers”
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L2RCNS1qvb8&feature=share

Harijiwan Singh Khalsa who boasts attending more Tantric Yoga classes with Yogi Bhajan than anyone else; convicted of criminal fraud in US Federal Court~ “As the Master, Yogi Bhajan tells us: “The gong is God. So it is said; so it is.” Regular listening to the gong will re-pattern your magnetic field, open you to the vastness of your own psyche, and release you from all that prevents you from living a life of complete and utter happiness.” http://www.harijiwan.com/yoga.htm
http://gurmukhyoga.com/forum/index.php?id=302

Yogi Bhajan's Chief of Protocol: MSS Hari Jiwan Singh Khalsa.The US Federal Trade Commission filed charges against Hari Jiwan for misrepresenting value, appreciation and liquidity of gemstones~ "The Master(Yogi Bhajan)later explained to me that was the way it was supposed to be as it was the beginning of the switch in Sikh leadership from the Indian community to the American Sikh yogis – recognized or not." ~ MSS Hari Jiwan Singh Khalsa in a letter to the American Sikh community dated 06/24/2011
http://gurmukhyoga.com/forum/index.php?id=324

Yogi Bhajan on the Sensory Human in the Aquarian Age: “The entire power of the human is its connection to the Universe through the psyche and the sixth sense. This is the basic point from where the Kundalini rises.” ~ Yogi Bhajan

Guruka Singh~ "Kundalini Yoga is natural. Sikhs are yogis & don’t even know it". http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h6C8S5XPbVU
http://gurmukhyoga.com/forum/index.php?id=341

Guruka Singh~ “The Aquarian Age isn’t just something that we started singing about in the sixties! It’s an actual measurable time period. It is an astrological age, i.e., a time period that parallels major changes in the development of the human race. Each astrological age roughly corresponds to the time taken for the vernal equinox to move through one of the twelve constellations of the zodiac. As I write this, we are now less than 1000 days away from the true beginning of the Age of Aquarius.” http://gurmukhyoga.com/forum/index.php?id=339

Guru Singh~ "Oneness awakening, your hair is like an electric circuitry."
http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&v=IH4N0NjOlzg

Yogi Bhajan declares he is greater than Sikh Gurus:"Guru Gobind Singh forgot somewhere to write that the Khalsa shall do Pooran praan tapaa. That’s the only way I can figure it out." ~ Yogi Bhajan
http://gurmukhyoga.com/forum/index.php?id=332

The following predictions are excerpts from lectures by Yogi Bhajan. http://www.rickross.com/reference/3ho/3ho18.html

Beads of Truth, 1972, "The Aura or Magnetic Field" lecture.
"Those who tune into him are tuned into HIM in return and this union is the Yoga of Awareness called Kundalini Yoga. Those who practice this will stand liberated."~ Yogi Bhajan

May 24, 1976

"The time is short; there is a lot to be done; our preparation is not adequate. I know that insanity is going to catch us. I know that humanity is going to be chewed up by the jaws of insanity and I know that I am a failure...soon brakes will be used as gas pedals; knives used to chop vegetables will commit a crime. Insanity doesn’t need a tool. Insanity is a tool. What a failure I am! I know the knowledge of Kundalini Yoga, the science of being, and what have I done? A couple thousand people is not enough. So what is left for me but to pray." ~ Yogi Bhajan

January 27, 1977

"The moon is an ethereal, auric living organic situation. There is life on the moon. They exist. They have their government and they work. But you can’t see them or feel them. One day, you will develop a sensory system and then you will feel them, and you will communicate with them, and they will communicate with you. You will say "Ahh, we came here twenty years ago and never these guys!" ~ Yogi Bhajan

" Now you say there is no life on Mars? Mars is populated...it is over-populated. The rate of production and sensuality is so heavy, and the beings--they grow so fast that they have to go and make war on all the other planets." ~ Yogi Bhajan

" There are beings on Jupiter. There is a hierarchy. Their energy and our energy interexchange in the astral body and it is highly effective." ~ Yogi Bhajan

"Sun flares-when they go backwards-are safe, but when they are pushed toward the Earth, it's like a bombardment which the Earth has to withstand." ~ Yogi Bhajan

"It is not a mystery, it's not imagination-it will come upon us soon, the flare of the sun is going to disturb the magnetic field of the Earth. You will find your hair starting to react differently&"~ Yogi Bhajan

"You will get stuck in thought. The heat form the sun flares is going to wipe out a lot of things. This will happen in the next 18 months & Humans will find it difficult to find the way." ~ Yogi Bhajan

Yogi Bhajan speaks

"What is happening is a slow, steady change in the atmosphere. Your endurance will be very low. Whether you are a yogi or not, you'll go berserk. It happened 136 years ago." ~ Yogi Bhajan

"Venus and Mars are going to be affected, so there can be misunderstandings. Don't pick these fights-they are useless, they waste your human body energy, they will make your mind impure and they will give you a lot of pain. A lot of pain." ~ Yogi Bhajan

"It will change you. Don't be surprised at people’s behavior& Don't doubt your friends, don't doubt your enemies. Don't trust your patients, don't trust your doctors & Do not depend on tomorrow. Period." ~ Yogi Bhajan

December 31, 1995 Espanola, NM

"We have from the past exactly 2000 years going through the process of impulse. The whole humanity is equal to 5.5 billion and it looks like it is going to increase...the terminal diseases have already gripped or are likely to grip one third of the total society...That’s a crushing wheel of time in which people will leave because they did not make it right to begin with." ~ Yogi Bhajan

"Now looking at life as you look at it today, 1996 is not a happy year for those who do not have spiritual discipline. Watch my words. I am saying it with very clear consciousness. I don’t want to say anything...It will have no place for people who have no spiritual discipline, and those who have spiritual discipline, they shall be rewarded as per percentage. Fact is right before our eyes, the percentage of your spiritual discipline will be your personal security and guarantee in 1996. So if we live to talk again next year, we’ll see. I do not know what will happen to you..." ~ Yogi Bhajan

"It is not that you have to worry about what I am saying, I’m telling you what is going to be. It is all beyond you. It is the time now...Anybody who lives, thinks, acts, the limited shall be limitedly suffocated to death..." ~ Yogi Bhajan

"Personal mediation, folks, is nothing but daily compound interest on the principle. You default in payment, there will be penalties. You can’t escape it." ~ Yogi Bhajan

"So, 1996 is not a bad year for spiritual people. But those who cheat shall retreat into their lower self and they shall suffer and this planet earth has nothing to offer." ~ Yogi Bhajan
Kundalini Lectures by Yogi Bhajan.

May 5, 1976

"The generations to follow those who do not seek now will seek and shall be free. This is the written destiny of God. I cannot change it, because I have not written it. Who am I to change the words of the great being? I am just a humble being." ~ Yogi Bhajan

June 6, 1976

"Sometimes you may see me look worried. When I see all of you, I do worry because I value you. You have invested 8.4 million existence’s to get this human body And then before you were allowed to be in this human body, you were purified in the third layer of consciousness of blue ether, which runs by light years. God knows how many years you were there. Then, finally, you got this human body." ~ Yogi Bhajan

January 27, 1977

"I was talking to a doctor today...and I said to him, "We are not going to cure people in the future because of medicine. Actually, a person is going to look at a person, and with mental frequency, he is gonna’ cure him." ~ Yogi Bhajan

September 19, 1977

"There is going to be a huge situation to face. November 11, 1978 is going to set the time. You will realize, people from that day on, fearfully experiencing the insanity. For those of you who do not have a systematic system to cope with themselves, there will be nothing on earth they can do." ~ Yogi Bhajan

November 30, 1977

"The majority of the people coming in the next 25 to 30 years will be totally perverted...They will undermine themselves to the extent that they will not be in a position to create balance between the two hemispheres of the brain. Forty years from now our entire medical science is going to depend on this: Is he on a gamma, on a theta, alpha, or beta wavelength of the brain, and, which is the predominant wavelength. We can then determine how to reorder the immediate recovery of the person. We can immediately understand the capacity of the person and we can also understand the consciousness of the person." ~ Yogi Bhajan

Beads of Truth, 1972, "The Aura or Magnetic Field" lecture.

"Those who sleep North-South, their electric magnetic field and the magnetic field of the earth are one. They lose their initiative, they become zero. Their magnetic field and the earth’s magnetic field are one, thus, they cannot hold the pressure of the earth’s field. Their nerves become weak. That is why you should sleep East-West." ~ Yogi Bhajan

"Those who tune into him are tuned into HIM in return and this union is the Yoga of Awareness called Kundalini Yoga. Those who practice this will stand liberated." ~ Yogi Bhajan

"A Date with Yogi Bhajan" lecture Beads of Truth 1972

"The coming children in 90 years from today will have a brain with a special development around the point of the pineal gland. They will have small cells which shall be known by the knowledgeable people as vibratory centers through which ordinary men shall communicate at long distance at the same time without physical, with their psyches and shall have effect and the reverse effect of all the knowledge of the mental process at different frequencies to relate to that great human vibratory level on which the future consciousness man shall talk and communicate. I am making a statement. You can mark it down." ~ Yogi Bhajan

Yogi Bhajan Kundalini yoga teachers will tell you false statements like "You have thousands of people practicing Kundalini Yoga with no side effects, only positive benefits."

More scientific evidence that your statement is false!

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Kundalini Yoga: Just a Harmless, Physical Exercise?
Article from the Illinois Family Institute
6/7/2011 4:30:00 PM
By Claris Van Kuiken

This summer, classes in Kundalini Yoga have been made available through the New Lenox Community Park District to members of the growing Illinois community. The ad in the park district's brochure assures the participant that through the use of movement, sound current, breath and meditation, Kundalini Yoga "brings a greater feeling of well-being and happiness" and can "heal your mind and body." While the mission of the New Lenox park district Board of Trustees is to provide "safe recreational opportunities" for residents, the ad does not make one aware of the potential physical, mental and spiritual dangers many yoga instructors warn about.
Such a promise of healing carries great responsibility and necessarily raises a few questions. What is Kundalini Yoga? Where did it come from? Why is it used? What are the risks involved? Who is the instructor?
Yoga is an ancient Hindu/occult spiritual discipline that can be traced back to the Indo-European people who lived in India during the 2nd millennium, B.C. Their religion was Vedism, which evolved into Hinduism. The Vedic sages have been credited for the development of yoga. The practice can be found in the Upanishads, which comprise the last part of the oldest religious Indian writings recorded, the Vedas, and in the Hindu favorite, the Bhagavad Gita, composed by the revered sage, Vyasa. These writings are claimed to have been "channeled" by the sages who were considered "seers," god-men with super-human powers capable of dematerializing and shape-shifting. It's assumed that masters of yoga possess occult powers such as telepathy, ESP, clairvoyance, levitation, and mediumistic abilities.
Hinduism made a splash in the United States at the 1893 World Parliament of Religions held in Chicago, IL where Swami Vivekananda extolled its virtues as he called for the religions of the world to unite under its philosophy. In the 1920's, the Theosophical Society, co-founded by the famed Russian occultist, Helena P. Blavastky, based its headquarters in Wheaton, IL making a combination of Hinduism and other occult/mystical Eastern religious literature more available to Westerners.
During the 60's and 70's, a surge of gurus (men claiming to be gods) traveled from India to America on a mission to convert the West to Hinduism. Along with its companion, Transcendental Meditation, taught by the Maharishi Mahesh Yogi, yoga was quickly sold to Westerners as a great way to reduce stress, build self-esteem, heal the mind and body, and experience the interconnectedness of all creation.
Gurus know yoga is much more than a physical exercise. Those unaware of the spiritual nature of yoga, however, have often been subtly initiated into Eastern/occultic mysticism. Over a period of time, their world-view begins to change, and gradually, a different view of who God is, begins to emerge. As former Indian guru Rabi Maharaj explained, "There is no Hinduism without Yoga and there is no Yoga without Hinduism."
The Sanskrit word for yoga is "yuj," meaning "union." It's through the practice of yoga that Hindus believe they can experience their own divinity (called Self-realization or God-realization) as they unite with Brahman - the universal, divine, energy force found within all creation they call "God." Our problem, complains the guru, is that we forgot who we are. Yoga is the path used to remembering, and eventually becoming, our Higher Self (god), breaking a continuous cycle of karma (cause & effect) and reincarnation (deaths & rebirths).
So what is Kundalini Yoga? Often associated with Tantra Yoga, Kundalini Yoga is considered the fast way to enlightenment (becoming "god"). Laura Kalinski, yoga instructor for the New Lenox Park District, follows the teachings of the now deceased guru, Yogi Bhajan, who considered Kundalini Yoga a Raj Yoga (a royal path), because it combines all the traditional "eight limbs" of yoga together. The eight limbs are: moral restraint, self restraint through study and devotion to "God," postures, breath control, sensory inhibition, concentration - "fixing one's attention upon a selected object, whether a mantra or graphic representation of a deity," meditation - a "deepening of concentration marked by a progressive unification of consciousness," and finally, ecstasy - "one's complete merging with the object of meditation" (Tantra, The Path of Ecstasy, Georg Feuerstein, Shambala Pub., Inc., Boston, MA. 1998, pg. 124).
Kundalini (Sanskrit-kund), means "coiled" or "serpent" and represents divine, psychic energy called "serpent power." It is seen in the form of a coiled, female snake (the goddess aspect of the Divine) nestled at the base of the spine. For Hindus, who worship over 300 million gods, the aim of Kundalini Yoga is to reunite the goddess Shakti with her lover, Lord Shiva, god of destruction and creation, bringing about a state of bliss and enlightenment. This is the "bliss" the yoga practitioner is said to experience after raising the kundalini energy through seven chakras (energy centres) located from the base of the spine up the spinal column to the crown chakra, the top of the head. Psychic powers are purportedly acquired when a person opens their sixth chakra, the third eye-just above the middle of the eyebrows.
The body and hand positions (asanas & mudras) performed during yoga also have significance behind them. For example, the Cobra asana is taken from the movement of the snake which is revered in India. The Eagle asana is used to focus on the sixth chakra, helping one to attain psychic/occult powers. The Garuda mudra, "mystical bird," is used to enable communication with the spirit world. The Mantangi mudra represents the Hindu Goddess of Peace, and so forth.
Instructors use "sound current" in the form of mantras--chants said repeatedly to bring about a "higher" state of consciousness. The Adi mantra, Ong Namo Guru Dev Namo, is chanted a number of times to "tune in" oneself at the beginning of each Kundalini Yoga class. Ong Namo means, I bow to the subtle divine wisdom. Guru De Namo means, I bow to the Divine or Infinite Teacher within. Yogi Bhajan taught, "God is your inner consciousness." In a real sense, you are worshiping yourself. Chanting mantras are said to have penetrating power in the Cosmos connecting you to the deceased Bhajan and past Master Teachers in what is called The Golden Chain, providing divine guidance to the practitioner.
The chanting of mantras, breathing techniques, deep concentration and meditation in Kundalini Yoga brings one into an altered state of consciousness. This is a form of self-hypnosis, the roots of which lie in the occult.
The American Society of Clinical Hypnosis lists over fifty possible dangers from hypnosis in their American Journal of Clinical Hypnosis (Volume 31, Number 1, July 1988, pg. 46). It's no coincidence that many listed are the same risks yoga instructors warn about. Dangers of these practices include: severe headaches, depression, uncontrolled weeping or laughter, spasmodic jerking, feelings of intense heat or cold, electricity passing through the body and itching or crawling sensations, memory impairment, hallucinations, identity crisis, mental illness/insanity, suicidal thoughts/suicide, anxiety/panic attacks, heart palpitations, heart attack and death. On the other hand, one may experience intense feelings of a beautiful oneness with the universe, infinite love, and ecstatic bliss.
In his book, The Awakening of Kundalini," Gopi Krishna warned that prana (energy or life-force), can lead to blissful experiences, but if it isn't "properly attuned" can lead to feelings of fear, depression, anxiety and even "horrors of madness." He attributes years of unbearable, burning physical pain and mental anguish, to the practice of Kundalini Yoga and revealed: "I have passed through almost all the states of different mediumistic, psychotic and other types of mind; for some time I was hovering between sanity and insanity" (E. P. Dutton & Co., Inc., New York, 1975, pgs. 96, 97, 124).
Writing about Kundalini Yoga, Theosophist/occultist/medium, Alice Bailey, noted in her work, A Treatise on White Magic, that "only one in a thousand aspirants" are at the stage to begin such a practice and that may be "too optimistic." She warned it could "produce insanity" and made clear "it is a most dangerous undertaking when induced before the mechanism is ready to deal with it" (Lucis Publishing Company, New York NY, 1951, pgs. 590-591).
Well-known spiritual teacher, Jiddu Krishnamurti, suffered for years with excruciating headaches, visions, convulsions, shuddering and moaning, "much as a person possessed" - but called this "an inward cleansing" (Guiley, Rosemary Ellen, Harper's Encyclopedia of Mystical & Paranormal Experience, Harper SanFranciso, 1991, pg. 318).
Properly practiced or not, these and many other dangers exist, including spiritual ones. Besides the possibility of having one's worldview and definition of God altered, there is also the very real possibility of seeing, being oppressed by, and/or possessed by dis-embodied spirits (Christians call them demons). This is a well-known phenomenon and frequent occurrence to those deeply involved in the occult.
El Collie, a widely-recognized practitioner of Kundalini Yoga, wrote of her experiences with "outrageous telepathy, clairvoyance, and visitations from entities from other realms" in her online book, Branded by the Spirit. Collie, who saw herself as a shaman/priestess (witchdoctor) and a "conduit for the Spirit," described Kundalini as the Goddess who came to her when she "least expected it, pouring herself into her "through megavolts of energy" that turned her body into an "electrified living temple" (http://www.elcollie.com/st/chap1.html). Brilliant flashes of white light are common during a Kundalini awakening, said Collie, and are "often perceived in the presence of spirit guides or during divine visitations" (http://www.elcollie.com/st/light.html).
While some practitioners claim to see "Christ" or other "angelic" spiritual beings, others have had haunting, terrifying experiences they probably wish they could forget. Carole, a friend of author John Weldon, took up Hatha yoga for health reasons. "The night after receiving her mantra, Carole was visited by a spirit being who claimed to be the spirit of Swami Rama himself...She experienced wonderful powerful forces and energies, while thoughts entered her mind with a magnetic-like force." Carole believed she was communicating with the spirit world and had found God. But, after two weeks of meditation, "Carole became engulfed in a nightmare of utter dread and terror." The beings she thought were angelic turned demonic and viciously attacked her (see http://www.ankerberg.com/Articles/new-age/NA1101W1htm).
There are many accounts like the ones I've provided above by those who are both for and against the occult practice.
New Lenox yoga instructor, Laura Kalinski (given the spiritual name, Balprem Kaur), is a member of 3HO - the Healthy, Happy, Holy Organization founded in 1969 by Yogi Bhajan, a guru from India who called himself the "Lord of the Heavens." Bhajan boasted about his occult powers and expertise in the occult practices of numerology, astrology, tarot cards, and more. He called for 3HO members to bring in the New Age of Aquarius saying, "The time has come not to search for God, but to be God." New Agers believe the Age of Pieces (the Judeo-Christian age of the West) must die out in order to bring peace and wholeness to the earth they worship.
While a Sikh by birth, Bhajan was denounced as a heretic by orthodox Sikhs for incorporating Hindu idols, occult numerology, fire pujas (sacred rituals making offerings to an image of a deity), and deviant sexual practices (Tantric Yoga) into the Sikh religion, all of which are strictly forbidden.
Some see the late, white-bearded, white-robed Bhajan as a great spiritual Master, but former members of his inner circle, including his top secretary, accused him of being a cult leader who had dictator-like control over his followers using psychological techniques, manipulation, fraud and deceit for money, power, and sexual favors.
Longtime member of 3HO, Gursant Singh, wrote these revealing words about Bhajan: "In his Journal Kundalini Research Institute of 3H0 and a number of his other papers, he leaves his followers in no doubt that he is the prophet of the new age with such mighty spiritual powers that he controls their destinies, their auras and their magnetic fields. He is their Master, their Spiritual Guide and their Guru. Without a living guru they cannot know the truth, and out of all the living gurus, he can reveal the truth best; and out of all his pictures, they must meditate on one picture of him..." (http://www.gurmukhyoga.com/forum/index.php?mode=thread&id=225). Bhajan requested his devotees to meditate on his picture from 15 minutes to 4 hours a day.
On her Manhattan, IL website, Kalinski admits: "Kundalini Yoga is the yoga of awareness as taught by Yogi Bhajan, Ph.D, Master of Kundalini Yoga." It's not surprising to see statutes of a Hindu deity inside the Yoga 360 Studio and Spa in Frankfort, IL where Kalinski also works with Ram Nam Kaur. The instructors at the Studio acknowledge: "Yoga is a gift from ancient India, embraced by the West" and "is a practice which has the potential for deep transformation that both includes and extends beyond physical fitness" (http://www.yoga-360.com/aboutus/yogagivesback.html).
Cult expert Rick Ross cautions: "..if you see some guru's picture on the wall, or religious statues in the entrance area or practice room, something more than yoga might be lurking within the instruction...A group with a hidden agenda can use meditation to download its program" (http://www.cultnews.com/?cat=2).
Claris Van Kuiken is an author, researcher, free-lance writer and speaker. She has been a guest on Christian talk radio and lectured around the country, including Canada.
3HO is increasingly trying to make getting certified as a Kundalini Yoga teacher a more and more costly and drawn-out process. Level I begets Level II which begets Level III (where I believe according to them do you only began to be able to call yourself a "yoga teacher") which will certainly beget a Level IV, bleeding you out of tens of thousands of dollars and months and years along the way.

http://www.yogadangers.com/
According to renowned psychoanalyst Carl Jung:
"One often hears and reads about the dangers of Yoga, particularly of the ill-reputed Kundalini Yoga. The deliberately induced psychotic state, which in certain unstable individuals might easily lead to a real psychosis, is a danger that needs to be taken very seriously indeed. These things really are dangerous and ought not to be meddled with in our typically Western way. It is a meddling with Fate, which strikes at the very roots of human existence and can let loose a flood of sufferings of which no sane person ever dreamed. These sufferings correspond to the hellish torments of the chönyid state..." C. G. Jung, Introduction to The Tibetan book of the Dead *
The purpose of this website is to provide information and links to articles and websites that describe the many physical, psychological, and spiritual dangers associated with Yoga, Transcendental Mediation (TM), and especially practices that are used to bring about a "Kundalini Awakening." As you investigate the sites and articles referenced on this website you will see that the purpose of yoga is not physical exercise but a path to spiritual "awakening" and "enlightenment" through union with the "divine." In order to bring about this "enlightenment" the overarching goal of yoga is to prepare oneself for the awakening of the spiritual energy or "kundalini" that supposedly lies dormant at the base of the spine. When the awakening of kundalini or "serpent energy" occurs, the consequences can be perilous and last for years.

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Before addressing Gurumustuk Singh of SikhNet’s comments I’d like to say I’m eternally grateful to Guru Sahib for directing Dr. Trilochan Singh to write “Sikhism and Tantric Yoga” which helped open my eyes to authentic Sikhism after lying in slumber for 35 years under the influence of Yogi Bhajan’s Kundalini & tantric yoga spell.
http://gurmukhyoga.com/forum/index.php?mode=page&id=1

I pray to Wahe Guru that my comments here may also help my brothers and sisters still in 3HO to see the truth and enter the mainstream of life as authentic Sikhs.

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Kundalini Yoga - Against my Religion? (SikhNet Video)
http://www.sikhnet.com/video/kundalini-yoga-against-my-religion

Wajinder Singh says:
bhai sahib jeeo.
your interpretaton of Gurbani to validify the use of yoga in Sikhism is WRONG.

Gurumustuck says:
"Kundalini Yoga is a very positive tool that anyone can use (Sikh or not). Countless thousands of people have come on to this spiritual path as a result of starting to practice this....,"
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Gursant Singh:
If Gurumustuck is referring to people coming to Yogi Bhajan's spiritual path as a result of Kundalini Yoga then maybe we can say that at most five thousand people have adopted a form of Sikhism which in many ways is contrary to the teachings of the Sikh Gurus. From my 30 years’ experience in Yogi Bhajan's form of Sikhism, I found it to have some good results but to a large degree produced greed, lust, anger (mostly of the passive aggressive form) and selfishness in the 3HOers who practiced it. Look at the current situation in 3HO where they are fighting now over the millions made by Yogi Bhajan's use of the sacred Sikh symbols and Shabads to sell breakfast cereal and Yogi Tea. You must agree that if you look at one side of 3HO in this dispute you see greedy people and on the other side you see angry closed minded individuals.

I submit that Kundalini Yoga is like an addictive drug which may seem to make people better but after time it acts in producing mental and physical side effects like delusions about the " Magic Aquarian Age energy" beaming down from Jupiter and the stars to liberate people who do Kundalini yoga on the banks of the Ganga river! See this video of Gurmukh kaur which shows clear delusional behavior.

The fact is there was every reason why the Sikh Gurus designed Sikhism in the way they did, as a complete spiritual path and a complete way of living a human life. Yogi Bhajan diverted from the teachings of the Gurus with his clap trap theories of Kundalini Yoga and now he and his 3HO cult are paying for it!

Gurumustuck says:
"Kundalini Yoga is a very positive tool that anyone can use (Sikh or not). Countless thousands……. overcome addictions, healed themselves, lifted their spirits and become more healthy happier people."[image]

Gursant Singh:
Well NO, if you examine the actual hard numbers of people who claim to have benefited from KY then we must acknowledge that maybe a few thousand “THINK” they've seen health benefits and feel their life is happier as a result of practicing Kundalini Yoga. It may appear there are large numbers of Yogi Bhajan KY beneficiaries but this is deceptive because 3HO members have high skills in technology and marketing, therefore their numbers seem larger. Witness the SikhNet phenomena. I would also say that Kundalini Yoga can be dangerous and many many people have actually reported on the internet that their lives have been affected in a very negative and destructive way by Yogi Bhajan and his Kundalini/Tantric Yoga, but of course Gurumustuck and SikhNet refuse to address this and only block people who want to discuss the issue. I ask Gurumustuck "What about the thousands who became disenchanted with Yogi Bhajan's form of Sikhism and left the Sikh faith completely?” Many people in 3HO who could afford to leave, left Yogi Bhajan and his KY cult, while the ones whose livelihood depended on teaching Kundalini Yoga and the 3HO business's like SikhNet, Golden Temple foods and Akal security stayed with the appearance of wearing Sikh Bana but many only attached to Kundalini Yoga for money: Witness Kartar Khalsa and this whole group of 3HO leaders whom Yogi Bhajan trusted above all. This group of 3HOers are now cutting their hair and leaving Sikhi for another guru. Out of the thousands that left 3HO, the fact remains that a mere hand full (maybe 10 people) remained Sikhs! Remember Yogi Bhajan's favorite saying "Fake it and you'll make it." This statement tells all there is to say about the benefits of YB's Kundalini Yoga!
The fact remains; there was every reason why the Sikh Gurus designed Sikhism in the way they did, as a complete spiritual path and a complete way of living a human life. Yogi Bhajan diverted from the teachings of the Gurus with his clap trap theories of Kundalini Yoga and now he and his 3HO cult are paying for it!
http://gurmukhyoga.com/forum/index.php?id=305
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I have been participating in a forum with many former and current followers of Yogi Bhajan at these links:

They ask some very good questions about Yogi Bhajan and his style of Kundalini Yoga:

http://forums.delphiforums.com/Kamallarose/messages?msg=1299.37

Discussion on facebook too:
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"does not mean that Kundalini Yoga is fake"

Tell you what, show me a history of YB style Kundalini Yoga that has a source other than YB himself and I will personally apologize to you on this forum or any other of your choice. It's not KY that is the issue. It is the many, many untruths that surround it including the well publicized lie that it came from the Sikh Gurus.

"You cannot take that away from YB or 3HO"

I can't speak for anyone else here but I know that I am not trying to. All I am asking for is truth. Truth about the sources of KY; truth about the Mahan Tantric nonsense; truth about YB and his activities with women other than his wife; truth about the fact that few if any of those in 3HO who carry the last name Khalsa are truly Khalsa.

"They have come to heal the planet."

Well, no. They may claim that but, in actual fact, 3HO exists to promote the myth of YB as an all powerful entity.

KY and the entire 3HO body of teaching and the YB cult are inexorably entwined. Few have even bothered to try and separate them; it is just assumed that they are mutually empowering.

How can the earth be healed when the dysfunctionality of 3HO is what sustains it? In order to progress spiritually (according to them) it is necessary to surrender to the Bhajan cult.

This projection - "They have come to heal the planet" - is along the same lines as "the USA will be fine just as soon as everyone votes liberal (or conservative). It's based in wishful thinking and not reality.


"God is the only one you should be worshiping."

Again I cannot speak for anyone else here but I believe that most, if not all, of the regular posters here who believe in God worship Him/Her; certainly not a corrupt hypocrite.

BTW I have been spending time with a brother who was with "The Master"
for several years. He tells me that one day he was alone with YB and YB said "I am the most corrupt man on this planet". Nothing like truth to set you free.

It is the 3HO people who are worshiping YB. The proof is readily available on the internet and Gursant has done an excellent job in posting the pictures to prove it.

"Has the acid fried your brain so much that you have no beauty left in your heart to appreciate the grace that God has granted you through YB and Kundalini Yoga? How sick and victim-like is it for you to come on here and whine and complain about a man who brought peace, love, and happiness to your dark world?"

Any Grace that has been granted by the Akaal Purkh to me has come through Guru Nanak Sahib, his successors and of course, my Guru, Siri Guru Granth Sahib.

I have said here before and I will say again: I believe in truth. Why do 3HO people not allow free discussion about YB, the history of KY and the nature of YB style Sikhism? It is because they do not want the truth to come out.

"man who brought peace, love, and happiness to your dark world?"

You forgot hypocrisy, megalomania, serial abuse of women and a lot of other things.

And my world is not dark because I have the light of Guru Nanak Sahib embodied in SGGS. I need not worship any man

1440.6 in reply to 1440.5
The hardest thing to fight is the Kundalini Crack effect. Have you ever chanted or sung songs full out for a couple of hours straight? It gets you high - not a bad thing by itself. But when you add in the Kundalini Crack, heavy yoga exercise, and when you hook people's yearnings and prayers and desperation so that they are crying out to God...it is easy to induct them into the Gurunam cult.

They believe they are having all sorts of wild and wonderful experiences because of him.


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"Projecting your own insecurities of lack onto YB is pitiful. Have some respect for someone that introduced you to Guru Nanak and helped you stop smoking dirt grass and dropping acid tabs all day long. Has the acid fried your brain so much that you have no beauty left in your heart to appreciate the grace that God has granted you through YB and Kundalini Yoga? How sick and victim-like is it for you to come on here and whine and complain about a man who brought peace, love, and happiness to your dark world? Now that he is gone, you have nothing to show for but bitterness and blame. Keep up or stay wacko..."
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I'm an outsider, have never attended an ashram , belonged to a religious group, etc -- I read the reference Gursant gave to you. I have read the public accounts of yogi bhahan's empire and its ongoing dissolution. What it boils down to is FOLLOW THE MONEY. YB died a billionaire. He accumulated that wealth thru other's hard efforts and sacrifices. He profited immensely from the only resource that many of his disciples were able to to give- Time. He lived and leeched off the kindness of others. .... "I have your children".
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