response to Guruterath Singh's email by Gurujodha Singh

by Gursant Singh ⌂ @, Yuba City California USA, Wednesday, March 31, 2010, 10:48 (4222 days ago) @ Gursant Singh

Please read an Excerpt below taken from

"Sikhism and Tantric Yoga"
by Dr. Trilochan Singh (Link to entire book)

"Yogi Bhajan is using the sacred Sikh mantras and the sacred name of Guru Ram Das as a mantle for his Tantric Sex Yoga which will inevitably lead to mental and physical debauchery of those who take his brand of Sikhism contaminated by crazy sex-energizing asanas seriously."

GTS-“2. UI appoint replacements when needed to the UI, SDI, SDEI, Sikhnet and
Sikh Dharma Affiliate Boards from recommendations given to it by the Khalsa
Council. If they do not accept the recommendations, the KC would submit new
lists until the appointments are made. This is similar to the US Senate
appointing Supreme Court Justices, Cabinet and other high positions from
recommendations given by the President.”

Actually the process you describe above is quite dissimilar since the U.S.
President is elected every four years and the Senate every six in a popular
election. UI members have been appointed for life and at least as I read Roy
Lambert's e-mails UI has the all knowing, infinite power of Oz. So the proper
checks and balances present in the real world model are not present in your
proposed UI appointment process.

GTS-“ 3. There would be no need for SDS to continue to exist, since the
original mandate given to the UI Board would be back in place. “

This statement presumes there is a need for SDS now. In my opinion there has
never been a” need” for the SDS to exist and they should have resigned
long ago.

GTS-“ 4. With respect to SDI Board members and officers, there be a mandatory
retirement age of 55.

The last condition is primary and fundamental because it recognizes that there
is a third group - the next generation, that can lead us forward. It is a
group that can have widespread support and that can, if they see fit, seek
advice from those of us who are older and who, under the guidance of the SSS,
built the Dharma - but who are also on the verge of destroying it.”

While I don’t agree with such an age limitation on service, I am curious why
you feel the 55 mandatory retirement age should only apply to SDI Board
Members and officers. If it is so “primary and fundamental” why isn’t it
good for all the non-profits, the for profits and UI as well?

Earlier you spoke of “very angry, self-righteous, old people” . Now you
are advocating a “mandatory retirement age”. Personally, my environment is
filled with people who are passionate and masterful. I am surrounded by folks
who have spent the better part of their lives mastering their discipline under
the guidance of a Grand Master. Yogis and yoginis, (people who haven’t done
just 40 days of sadhana but close to 40 years of daily sadhana), artisans,
vegetarian gormet chefs, black belts, master ragis and raginis, healers,
religious scholars and business leaders for whom 55 is the new 25. People for
whom chronological age is just a number not a defining element of their

So I don’t believe the issue is age. I believe the issue is integrity,
willingness to serve and some degree of mastery of your discipline. If you are
"old" with nothing to offer, and/or unwilling to serve then yes, step aside,
but if your life experience and training informs your life and you can lead
others by your example then in my opinion you need to do it- no matter what
your chronological age may be.

Dumping this crisis on the” next generation” who ever they are is
analogous in my mind to a situation where thieves break into your house,
threaten and intimidate your family, load up your big screen TV., the silver
ware, take your kid’s piggy bank and (maybe even your favorite kayak) and
your response is to escort them to the front door, forgive and thank them for
taking your stuff and when your kids look up at you and say: “Papa aren’t
you going to do something?” you say: “you kids handle it, I’m too old”.

I can appreciate that this is one of many possible responses. It however, it
is not one that I would choose.

GTS-“It may be that these events have demonstrated that SDI is no longer a

I would inquire as to which SDI you are referring- the “original SDI” who
were fired and replaced by UI or the new and (un-improved in my opinion)

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